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27 June 2012 @ 05:01 pm
*&!@#$@ BLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

*bangs head against the desk* 

Attempting to write erotic scenes is literally driving me mad. I went to the local bookstore to gather inspiration, and ended up with an arm load of crap. I don’t think I’m ever going find the balance between giving an intensely detailed rundown of the ins and outs of it all and finding a tasteful way to show the progression of a relationship. I think that’s the problem. The smut in my story starts out as just that but, over the course of the story, it evolves just as much as the characters do.  Damn you, Damn Your Eyes. You have given me a headache. 

Disposition: annoyedannoyed
Tunes: The Awakening-- James Morrison
pyttanpyttan on June 27th, 2012 09:13 pm (UTC)
Try writing the whole erotica scene without the all the words that referrs to the genitals. I know it sounds weird and goes against alla erotica advice there is but it does work. You get the scene set, and if you need to add a penis and fluids later on, you can see where to fit them in *giggles hysterically at own joke*.

Erotica is difficult, and I can't write about cocks and dicks and throbbing manhoods without freaking out, so I don't.

LaraLeelaralee88 on June 28th, 2012 05:29 am (UTC)
The story is basically finished, except for the blasted erotica. I saved the smut for the absolute last thing, and I am regretting that decision now. Given the progression of the story, I have about nine mature scenes I have to write. Each of which will get significantly more substantial for the characters as the story progresses. The first being what they consider a drunken mistake the last being the be all end all scene that encapsulates the entire premise of the story—the one the story ends with. You can see why this almost caused me to go all Office Space on my laptop this afternoon. I'm not kidding when I say I was a mouse click away from deleting all 50 thousand words I have written since April, and washing my hands with the entire mess.

I'll try the method you suggested. The type of scenes I have in my mind doesn't go into the details of it all, so I’m hoping this particular strategy will help. Thanks!
mundungus42mundungus42 on June 27th, 2012 09:51 pm (UTC)
Smut always takes five times as long to write and half as long to read as the rest of a story. Give it time- it'll come (ha)!
LaraLeelaralee88 on June 28th, 2012 05:35 am (UTC)
I’m learning that the hard way, I’m afraid. I’m just going to have to get away from it for a while. Right now, I’m stewing over the fact that I am so close to finishing it, but I can’t quite figure out how to do that. I try to work on other stuff, but alas, this particular story is always in the back of my mind glaring at me.
Dahlra's Submissiveteddyradiator on June 27th, 2012 09:56 pm (UTC)
As someone who is known by certain people as a smut peddler, I can attest that it's something I've got to be very inspired to do. Can produce it on demand, and it's not as easy as people think.

Just hang in there. It will come to you, and you'll be amazed how quickly you'll get it down.
LaraLeelaralee88 on June 28th, 2012 05:49 am (UTC)
I’m starting to realize what you mean about forcing it. I had to get completely away from the computer this afternoon. I went to the local park for about an hour. Fed the ducks, walked a mile, and just sat in the grass trying to think about anything other than the terror sitting on my hard drive. It’s frustrating and I stew over it. Fortunately, that little reprieve proved beneficial this time. I came home and wrote about 2000 words for a scene and it worked fine. Tomorrow that will probably be a different story and I’ll curse at my laptop a little bit more. Oh well, like you said, it will come to me again some day. It’s safe to say I won’t be meeting my deadline before school resumes in August. Thanks for the advice, Teddy!
noxiaa: sshgnoxiaa on June 28th, 2012 01:08 am (UTC)
It just takes practice. Lots and lots of practice.

What I've found useful is that when I find a writer whose erotica I enjoy, I start picking it apart to find what pushes my buttons so well. Why do I enjoy this writer's scene better than another? Same with things I don't like. My own style is constantly evolving. It's only in the last year or so that I've felt comfortable typing the word "cock", but now it's my favorite word for that particular body part.

There's nothing wrong with the smut starting out being for its own sake and evolving. I actually admire authors who can do that, because it's so easy to fall into what I "lovingly" term as IKEA sex. "Tab A goes in Slot B, X number of thrusts, orgasm, orgasm." XD
LaraLeelaralee88 on June 28th, 2012 06:28 am (UTC)
This story has just been a world of hurt for me. The smut is just the newest problem. At first, my problem was getting over my reservations of writing smut. Here I am, the minister’s wife and a first grade teacher and I’m writing erotica *gasps*! That was an easy fix. I told myself I was going to branch out so I did, leaving behind all my qualms. Hell, I’d bet money most of my congregation can’t turn on a computer, and most of my students are just learning to read so I figured I was safe in that regard. Problem number two relates to my first story. This particular story with the smut is the second chaptered one I’ve written. The first one came easily. That said, I expected the second to come to me the same way. I had found my footing so to speak. I had an established a routine for writing that worked for me. I outlined and it looked great in the condensed form. Well, I get to the first smut scene and I panic. I skipped it, continued to write until I got to the next one. Again, I skipped it and continued to write. Now I have a partially finished story that I’m struggling over. I look at The Beginning of Truth and I’m like okay, Laralee what’s wrong with you? You cranked out that monster in like three months and you’re still dragging your feet over one that is considerably smaller with fewer characters to deal with. Combine that with the fact I want to get it finished before school starts in August and I have created a whole new problem.

Now we get to the smut. As you said, it is very easy to fall under IKEA sex category and I don’t want to do that. As I told Pyttan, I have about 9 scenes to write. Each builds on the other, and with each one their relationship deepens. It’s hard to show that. I went to the bookstore today and got several books to try to help me along. The first book I open I see, “milking my dick.” I promptly shut the book because that was not the direction I wanted to go. I don’t even want that in my head interfering with what I think I want to do. Like you said, I'll just have to keep at it until I get what works for me. I don't think it'll be soon. Thanks for the advice by the way, and for listening to my nattering!
noxiaanoxiaa on June 28th, 2012 05:46 pm (UTC)
At least you've worked steadily through Problem One. I can see where that would definitely have an effect on your comfort level, since there are certain expectations people have of *both* your personal and professional life!

Are you absolutely sure the relationship progression requires full-on smut? From the bit I read below, it does seem you do build-up quite well. If you want to challenge yourself, however, perhaps it would help focusing on the emotions in the scene first, then adding the actions in later? The feelings are truly the meat and potatoes of a good scene in my opinion, and maybe that would help ease you into things. For example, decide on a tone for the scene progression. Like if a scene is going to be intimate, focus on the strength of the emotions and pick a fitting position, such as missionary for face-to-face. If it's a more animalistic coupling, use rougher words and a traditionally rougher position like doggie.

That book you picked up? Ouch! The published authors I like for erotica are Sherrilyn Kenyon and Jean Johnson (Jean is ladyofthemasque ). I think they hit the tones just right.

Natter away! That's what LJ friends are for! And I always love talking writing. :)
LaraLeelaralee88 on June 29th, 2012 01:40 am (UTC)
You see, that’s just the thing. At first, it’s strictly the two of them coming together as a means to escape their issues. For Hermione, she’s dealing with insecurities that range from being a Muggle-born to having absolutely no prospects romantically…i.e. the Ron and Lavender incident. (The story is set during the sixth school term after she turns 17). For Snape, it’s the fact he has absolutely no control over his life. Not to put too fine a point on it, the two of them have a rough year, and seek each other out in order to have a modicum of control and sense of belonging. As their arrangement begins to carry itself out, they start to learn a bit more about the other, and the desire to just have that release/escape is replaced by a desire to comfort and soothe. They essentially become beacons for the other, the anchor that makes everything bearable.

The build-up I got. I can do that all day. I can also write the internal interpretations the characters have concerning their arrangement. That part’s easy because I know how their opinions and feelings evolve. It’s just the blasted act itself that is tripping me up. I don’t want to get caught up in all of the “oohs” and “ahhs” of it all, but I want people to know they are reading an intimate moment, if that makes any sense at all.

That book was horrendous. It was a by Lora Leigh, an author I don’t care much for now that I have read some of her stuff, but to each his own I suppose. I’ll check out some of the authors you suggest, and hopefully get my rear in gear and finish this thing.
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noxiaa: sshgnoxiaa on June 28th, 2012 05:47 pm (UTC)
Hehe, thank you! :) The icon I originally saw years ago, but never picked it up since I wasn't into HP fandom at the time although I enjoyed the books. I went on a furious search once I found myself in SSHG land and lucked out. It's freely gankable, and it's one of my favorite icons, though I don't get to use it often. :D
hbarthbart on June 28th, 2012 04:38 am (UTC)
Not to make you nervous, but bad smut is just as bad as bad plot. I hate reading smut if I am cringing at the same time. Sort of ruins the mood. I don't know if I can really say what makes for bad or good smut. Certainly there are words that you can use for anatomy and actions that sound sensual, and others that sound like a giggling group of preteen boys should be using them. Don't use the latter. I guess I would say that you should read some stuff from authors who have it down to an art, and then copy them. Well, not exactly copy, but look closely at what it is that makes them good. Is it word choice? Is it the atmosphere and UST leading up to the act? I think you will find, though, that every one struggles with this. Hang in there, it will work out, and we will love it.
LaraLeelaralee88 on June 28th, 2012 06:39 am (UTC)
I'll give you a little taste of what I managed this afternoon. Keep in mind this is hot off the press and my lovely new beta has not seen this. I'd like to know what you think. Like you, I have read some smut that has left me a little sick to my stomach. As you said there is a way to do it and there is a way not to do.

He buried his face in her auburn locks, inhaling deeply. He knew it was improper, but it had been far too long and he couldn’t stop thinking about the day he had taken her over his desk. He swept her unruly hair to the side, exposing the flawless skin of her neck. His lips started the top of her clothed shoulder and continued upward until they came to the sensitive area just behind her ear. A small moan slipped from her lips as he slowly and deliberately nipped at the soft flesh of her earlobe.

“I didn’t give you permission to leave.” His voice was nearly as tantalizing as his sharp tongue, and his silken tone sent a wave of chills flooding over her body. Snape felt the young woman shiver against him. “Are you afraid?”

“Not of you,” she finally managed.

Snape’s lips didn’t falter on her ear as he of grabbed her hands in his and pressed them flat against the door. Hermione Granger wouldn’t run from this problem like she did most of her others. “And, Miss Granger, just what are you afraid of?”

“Falling to pieces,” she whispered, unable to help her epiphany. “I don’t want to become what everyone claims me to be. I don’t see a way to rise above it, and it terrifies me.”

I have lead up down, I think...maybe. Gosh I don't know! And to think, I have 9 of these bad boys to write!

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LaraLeelaralee88 on June 29th, 2012 01:48 am (UTC)
I’ll need all the luck I can get, for both of our sakes. You’ll be reading it once it’s done! :P